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		<title>Comment on Should You Really be on YouTube? by You don&#8217;t need to be on Facebook, and you don&#8217;t need a Twitter account &#171; market insights insider</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/should-you-really-be-on-youtube/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>You don&#8217;t need to be on Facebook, and you don&#8217;t need a Twitter account &#171; market insights insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that all community banks and credit unions should be on Facebook and Twitter.  It reminds me of a post I wrote in response to the article &#8220;You Should be on YouTube&#8221; that was published in ABA [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that all community banks and credit unions should be on Facebook and Twitter.  It reminds me of a post I wrote in response to the article &#8220;You Should be on YouTube&#8221; that was published in ABA [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ask the Right Questions by nichebanking</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/ask-the-right-questions/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>nichebanking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Jim and Ron.  Also, if the goal is &quot;differentiation,&quot; which it typically is at least to some point, the bank/credit union needs to take a hard, objective look at the agency&#039;s work and ask, &quot;does this really DIFFERENTiate us?&quot;  Most differentiation in banking isn&#039;t really differentiation, it&#039;s just varying degrees of the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Jim and Ron.  Also, if the goal is &#8220;differentiation,&#8221; which it typically is at least to some point, the bank/credit union needs to take a hard, objective look at the agency&#8217;s work and ask, &#8220;does this really DIFFERENTiate us?&#8221;  Most differentiation in banking isn&#8217;t really differentiation, it&#8217;s just varying degrees of the same thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ask the Right Questions by Jim Perry</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/ask-the-right-questions/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Ron.  All good questions.  Let&#039;s hope any marketing strategy has clear objectives aligned with actual market opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Ron.  All good questions.  Let&#8217;s hope any marketing strategy has clear objectives aligned with actual market opportunities.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ask the Right Questions by Ron Shevlin</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/ask-the-right-questions/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Shevlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about asking: &quot;does it achieve its objectives?&quot; 

Which, of course, will lead to the question &quot;what were the objectives, anyway?&quot;

Which will lead to a lot of argument and discussion.

Which is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about asking: &#8220;does it achieve its objectives?&#8221; </p>
<p>Which, of course, will lead to the question &#8220;what were the objectives, anyway?&#8221;</p>
<p>Which will lead to a lot of argument and discussion.</p>
<p>Which is good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Banks Devote a Good Portion of Resources to Advertising? by Brady Walen</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/should-banks-devote-a-good-portion-of-resources-to-advertising/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady Walen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, Thanks for your comment. 

To answer your question, no one should spend any money on poor advertising.  The challenge here is being able to tell the difference between &#039;good&#039; advertising and &#039;bad&#039; advertising.  You&#039;re right, some of these ads are poor because they emphasize product features too heavily or are too heavy on the corporate speak.  In my mind, many ads are ineffective because they aren&#039;t designed to speak to a specific market - the message may be wrong, the image may be wrong, or the media choice may be wrong all together.  

I also agree with your point about engagement - but advertising is usually a one-way street that does little to engage the consumer.

Bottom line: Bankers, marketers, and their agencies need to understand their markets.  They need to clearly define objectives and goals.  And they need to move forward with marketing efforts that are relevant and meaningful to their target.  This may include advertising, but it may not.  If it only includes advertising, you&#039;re probably missing something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, Thanks for your comment. </p>
<p>To answer your question, no one should spend any money on poor advertising.  The challenge here is being able to tell the difference between &#8216;good&#8217; advertising and &#8216;bad&#8217; advertising.  You&#8217;re right, some of these ads are poor because they emphasize product features too heavily or are too heavy on the corporate speak.  In my mind, many ads are ineffective because they aren&#8217;t designed to speak to a specific market &#8211; the message may be wrong, the image may be wrong, or the media choice may be wrong all together.  </p>
<p>I also agree with your point about engagement &#8211; but advertising is usually a one-way street that does little to engage the consumer.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Bankers, marketers, and their agencies need to understand their markets.  They need to clearly define objectives and goals.  And they need to move forward with marketing efforts that are relevant and meaningful to their target.  This may include advertising, but it may not.  If it only includes advertising, you&#8217;re probably missing something.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Banks Devote a Good Portion of Resources to Advertising? by jasongramke</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/should-banks-devote-a-good-portion-of-resources-to-advertising/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>jasongramke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think advertising agencies tend to get nervous when the market begins talking about shifting money from advertising. But a growing trend for the last ten years has been for them to figure out how to fully integrate a client’s marketing message. For the most part, agencies are comfortable with this concept. 

I think an additional question can be asked: should banks continue to spend a good portion of their resources on poor advertising? Or, should they spend any money on poor advertising? And the problem isn’t exclusive to banking, it’s everywhere. Consumers are immune to product features and stiff corporate speak. The single most important benefit that interests consumers is how the “bank” will enhance their lives. Consumers are ready to be engaged by the people who are providing them services and experiences. That can be accomplished with quality targeted advertising. But as your post leads us, that can’t be the only vehicle. In most cases, it’s not the primary vehicle. I think that’s why SM was such a hot topic at the ABA conference. 

In a nutshell, we believe it’s important for companies to develop relationships with their customers. And by relationships, we mean two-way. As an agency, we approach every client project in a way that will strengthen their relationship with their customers — regardless of what distribution method we use. If that means painting their sidewalk red, we paint their sidewalk red.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think advertising agencies tend to get nervous when the market begins talking about shifting money from advertising. But a growing trend for the last ten years has been for them to figure out how to fully integrate a client’s marketing message. For the most part, agencies are comfortable with this concept. </p>
<p>I think an additional question can be asked: should banks continue to spend a good portion of their resources on poor advertising? Or, should they spend any money on poor advertising? And the problem isn’t exclusive to banking, it’s everywhere. Consumers are immune to product features and stiff corporate speak. The single most important benefit that interests consumers is how the “bank” will enhance their lives. Consumers are ready to be engaged by the people who are providing them services and experiences. That can be accomplished with quality targeted advertising. But as your post leads us, that can’t be the only vehicle. In most cases, it’s not the primary vehicle. I think that’s why SM was such a hot topic at the ABA conference. </p>
<p>In a nutshell, we believe it’s important for companies to develop relationships with their customers. And by relationships, we mean two-way. As an agency, we approach every client project in a way that will strengthen their relationship with their customers — regardless of what distribution method we use. If that means painting their sidewalk red, we paint their sidewalk red.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on Social Media for Community Banks and Credit Unions by jasongramke</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/more-on-social-media-for-community-banks-and-credit-unions/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>jasongramke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brady,

&quot;I would argue that social media is here to stay. While the platforms and applications may change and evolve, I think engagement and discussion between businesses and consumers will still continue online through social media for years to come.&quot;

I agree with your assessment. I didn&#039;t communicate well. I should have said it wasn&#039;t here to stay &quot;in its current state&quot;.

I thought Virginia was übersmart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brady,</p>
<p>&#8220;I would argue that social media is here to stay. While the platforms and applications may change and evolve, I think engagement and discussion between businesses and consumers will still continue online through social media for years to come.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with your assessment. I didn&#8217;t communicate well. I should have said it wasn&#8217;t here to stay &#8220;in its current state&#8221;.</p>
<p>I thought Virginia was übersmart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on Social Media for Community Banks and Credit Unions by Brady Walen</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/more-on-social-media-for-community-banks-and-credit-unions/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady Walen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I also think Virginia was a bit surprised that more people in the room weren&#039;t using social media - at least at an individual level, not necessarily for their banks.  At the same time, I think she did a great job helping people understand social media at a basic level. 

I would argue that social media is here to stay.  While the platforms and applications may change and evolve, I think engagement and discussion between businesses and consumers will still continue online through social media for years to come.  

In any case, I do agree with your point that marketers need to find ways to engage now - whether that happens with or without social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I also think Virginia was a bit surprised that more people in the room weren&#8217;t using social media &#8211; at least at an individual level, not necessarily for their banks.  At the same time, I think she did a great job helping people understand social media at a basic level. </p>
<p>I would argue that social media is here to stay.  While the platforms and applications may change and evolve, I think engagement and discussion between businesses and consumers will still continue online through social media for years to come.  </p>
<p>In any case, I do agree with your point that marketers need to find ways to engage now &#8211; whether that happens with or without social media.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on Social Media for Community Banks and Credit Unions by jasongramke</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasongramke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Brady. I was in that session, I think Virginia was surprised at how disengaged the banking industry is in new vehicles to communicate with their customers.

As for whether or not social media is a fad, none of us have a crystal ball. What we can predict with a good amount of certainty is that reaching people has changed and we will never do things the same as we used to. We may not be using social media in five years, my guess is we&#039;ll be doing something not yet developed. But it will be an extension of what we&#039;re doing now. My point is this, a bank shouldn&#039;t be concerned if SM is here to stay, it&#039;s not – they should be concerned that they need to engage now because it will lead them to what comes next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Brady. I was in that session, I think Virginia was surprised at how disengaged the banking industry is in new vehicles to communicate with their customers.</p>
<p>As for whether or not social media is a fad, none of us have a crystal ball. What we can predict with a good amount of certainty is that reaching people has changed and we will never do things the same as we used to. We may not be using social media in five years, my guess is we&#8217;ll be doing something not yet developed. But it will be an extension of what we&#8217;re doing now. My point is this, a bank shouldn&#8217;t be concerned if SM is here to stay, it&#8217;s not – they should be concerned that they need to engage now because it will lead them to what comes next.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on Social Media for Community Banks and Credit Unions by Brady Walen</title>
		<link>http://miinsider.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/more-on-social-media-for-community-banks-and-credit-unions/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady Walen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, you&#039;re right - there was a lot of discussion about online marketing efforts at the conference.  While there&#039;s still a lot of questions about the best ways to market an institution online, it seemed that marketers are more open minded about, and more aware of the benfits of online marketing this year compared to last year&#039;s ABA Marketing Conference.  

There were definately more sessions focused on social media/online marketing than traditional advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, you&#8217;re right &#8211; there was a lot of discussion about online marketing efforts at the conference.  While there&#8217;s still a lot of questions about the best ways to market an institution online, it seemed that marketers are more open minded about, and more aware of the benfits of online marketing this year compared to last year&#8217;s ABA Marketing Conference.  </p>
<p>There were definately more sessions focused on social media/online marketing than traditional advertising.</p>
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